{"id":155,"date":"2023-07-08T16:39:37","date_gmt":"2023-07-08T13:39:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/cenkguray.com\/?p=155"},"modified":"2023-07-08T16:39:37","modified_gmt":"2023-07-08T13:39:37","slug":"prof-dr-cenk-guray-halk-muzigi-urunlerinin-makamsal-muzik-ozellikleri-tasidigini-dusunuyorum3","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cenkguray.com\/?p=155","title":{"rendered":"PROF.DR. CENK G\u00dcRAY; \u201cHALK M\u00dcZ\u0130\u011e\u0130\u201d \u00dcR\u00dcNLER\u0130N\u0130N \u201cMAKAMSAL M\u00dcZ\u0130K \u00d6ZELL\u0130KLER\u0130\u201d TA\u015eIDI\u011eINI D\u00dc\u015e\u00dcN\u00dcYORUM\u2026(3)"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"haberxheader\" class=\"MobilHeader_002 \" data-font1=\"0\" data-font2=\"0\">\n<div class=\"menu golge\">\n<div class=\"ortala flx fcc fbw fnwr\">PROF.DR. CENK G\u00dcRAY; \u201cHALK M\u00dcZ\u0130\u011e\u0130\u201d \u00dcR\u00dcNLER\u0130N\u0130N \u201cMAKAMSAL M\u00dcZ\u0130K \u00d6ZELL\u0130KLER\u0130\u201d TA\u015eIDI\u011eINI D\u00dc\u015e\u00dcN\u00dcYORUM\u2026(3)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"grid-stack grid-stack-instance-7717 grid-stack-one-column-mode\" data-gs-width=\"36\" data-gs-current-height=\"441\">\n<div class=\"grid-stack-item\" data-modulsure=\"25\" data-gs-x=\"0\" data-gs-y=\"0\" data-gs-width=\"36\" data-gs-height=\"362\" data-gs-autoh=\"1\" data-zeminrenk=\"1\" data-spotrenk=\"0\" data-baslikrenk=\"0\" data-seritrenk=\"-1\" data-hoverrenk=\"-1\" data-font1=\"0\" data-baslikkalinlik=\"9\" data-spotkalinlik=\"0\" data-baslikbold=\"4\" data-spotbold=\"0\" data-cogaltx=\"0\" data-cogalty=\"0\" data-border=\"0\" data-borderrenk=\"-1\" data-baslikls=\"0\" data-basliklh=\"0\" data-spotls=\"0\" data-spotlh=\"0\" data-sticky=\"0\">\n<div class=\"grid-stack-item-content numodul HaberDetay_1\">\n<div class=\"moduleBackground\">\n<div class=\"tema_3 module_112\">\n<div class=\"gr flx fcc info\">\n<div class=\"col-6\"><time>Tarih: 7.07.2023<\/time><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"tema_3 module_113\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"img\" src=\"https:\/\/www.enpolitik.com\/resimler\/2023-7\/7\/904761088316132.jpg\" \/><\/p>\n<h2 class=\"spotSize spotColor\">Sitemiz k\u00f6\u015fe yazar\u0131 Dr. G\u00f6ktan AY\u2019\u0131n, Prof. Dr. Cenk G\u00fcray (Hacettepe \u00dcniversitesi, Ankara Devlet Konservatuvar\u0131) ile yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 \u201cSanat-M\u00fczik ve Kurumlar\u0131m\u0131z \u201ckonulu s\u00f6yle\u015fiye devam ediyoruz.<\/h2>\n<div id=\"detaymetin\" class=\"content-news spotSize spotColor\">\n<p><span class=\"text-big\"><strong>Sitemiz k\u00f6\u015fe yazar\u0131 Dr. G\u00f6ktan AY\u2019\u0131n, Prof. Dr. Cenk G\u00fcray (Hacettepe \u00dcniversitesi, Ankara Devlet Konservatuvar\u0131) ile yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 \u201cSanat-M\u00fczik ve Kurumlar\u0131m\u0131z \u201ckonulu s\u00f6yle\u015fiye devam ediyoruz.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"text-big\"><strong>AY: \u00a0Konservatuvarlar Ba\u015far\u0131l\u0131 m\u0131? Bir Konservatuvar\u0131n, D\u00fczenli \u00c7al\u0131\u015fan Topluluk\/Orkestras\u0131 Olmas\u0131; Okul, \u00d6\u011fr. Elm. ve \u00d6\u011frenciler \u0130\u00e7in Art\u0131 Bir Puan m\u0131d\u0131r?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"text-big\"><strong>G\u00dcRAY:\u00a0<\/strong>Yine sadece kendi ad\u0131ma cevap verebilirim bu soruya. Evet, Hacettepe \u00dcniversitesi Ankara Devlet Konservatuvar\u0131 kurulu\u015f ilkeleri, bu ilkeleri g\u00fcn\u00fcm\u00fcze ta\u015f\u0131mas\u0131 ve gelece\u011fe dair bir bu do\u011frultuda bir bak\u0131\u015f a\u00e7\u0131s\u0131 olu\u015fturabilmesi dolay\u0131s\u0131yla ba\u015far\u0131l\u0131d\u0131r. Daha da ba\u015far\u0131l\u0131 olmak i\u00e7in \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmaktad\u0131r.<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>Konservatuvar\u0131m\u0131z i\u00e7inde pek \u00e7ok irili ufakl\u0131 oda m\u00fczi\u011fi topluluklar\u0131n\u0131n yan\u0131nda Hacettepe Senfoni Orkestram\u0131z ile Hacettepe Gen\u00e7lik Senfoni Orkestram\u0131z\u0131n mevcudiyetleri \u00f6\u011frencilerimizin e\u011fitimleri i\u00e7in i\u015faret etti\u011finiz gibi ola\u011fan\u00fcst\u00fc bir imkan\u0131 var etmektedir. Bu anlamda orkestra \u015feflerimiz Prof.Rengim G\u00f6kmen\u2019 e ve Prof. Dr. Burak T\u00fcz\u00fcn\u2019e de \u015f\u00fckranlar\u0131m\u0131 arz etmek isterim.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"text-big\"><strong>AY: \u00a0Prof.\u00a0<\/strong><\/span><span class=\"text-big\"><strong>Murat Salim Toka\u00e7 ile e\u015f edit\u00f6rl\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fczde bir akademik kadronun yaz\u0131lar\u0131 ve fikirsel emekleriyle v\u00fccut bulan &#8216;Anadolu ve Kom\u015fu Co\u011frafyalarda Makam M\u00fczi\u011fi Atlas\u0131&#8217; adl\u0131 eser Atat\u00fcrk K\u00fclt\u00fcr Merkezi taraf\u0131ndan yay\u0131nland\u0131. \u201cAnadolu&#8217;nun merkezi bir rol oynad\u0131\u011f\u0131 &#8216;makam m\u00fczi\u011fi&#8217; k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fcn\u00fcn d\u00fcnya m\u00fczik k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fc ad\u0131na kadim, birle\u015ftirici ve aktar\u0131c\u0131 rol\u00fcn\u00fcn daha belirginle\u015fmesine m\u00fctevaz\u0131 bir katk\u0131da bulunabilir.\u201d diyorsunuz. Anlad\u0131\u011f\u0131m kadar\u0131yla \u201cTHM dizilerinin\u201d de \u201cMakam\u201d adlar\u0131yla s\u00f6ylenmesini\/kabul edilmesini istiyorsunuz. Do\u011fru mu anlam\u0131\u015f\u0131m?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"text-big\"><strong>G\u00dcRAY:\u00a0<\/strong>Anadolu M\u00fczik K\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fcn\u00fcn ortak bir teorik zemin \u00fczerinde y\u00fckseldi\u011fine inan\u0131yorum. Bu y\u00f6n\u00fcyle Anadolu\u2019daki t\u00fcm geleneksel m\u00fczik eserleri Prof. Ertu\u011frul Bayraktarkatal hocam\u0131z\u0131n da i\u015faret etti\u011fi gibi \u201cmakamlardan mayalanm\u0131\u015f ezgilerden olu\u015fur\u201d. Bu y\u00f6n\u00fcyle \u201chalk m\u00fczi\u011fi\u201d \u00fcr\u00fcnlerinin de \u201cmakamsal m\u00fczik \u00f6zellikleri\u201d ta\u015f\u0131d\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 ve makamlardan \u201cmayaland\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131\u201d d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum. Makamlar\u0131 bir \u201cdizi\u201d ya da \u201cbu diziyi takip\u201d eden bir seyir olarak de\u011fil, \u201caz say\u0131da sesten olu\u015fan kal\u0131psal ezgi hareketleri\u201d olarak tan\u0131ml\u0131yorum. Bu yap\u0131lar Prof. Ertu\u011frul Bayraktarkatal ile Prof.Dr. Okan Murat \u00d6zt\u00fcrk\u2019\u00fcn ortak ve bireysel \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131nda ve Prof. Ertu\u011frul Bayraktarkatal ile yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z ortak \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalarda \u201cezgi \u00e7ekirdekleri\u201d olarak an\u0131lmaktad\u0131r. Dolay\u0131s\u0131yla makamlar\u0131 tarif etmek i\u00e7in Klasik T\u00fcrk M\u00fczi\u011fi gelene\u011finde oldu\u011fu gibi bir oktavdan fazla bir alana yay\u0131lan ezgilere ihtiya\u00e7 oldu\u011funu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum. Makamlar\u0131 k\u0131sa kal\u0131psal ezgilerle tan\u0131ml\u0131yor, daha karma\u015f\u0131k ezgileri ise bu k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck kal\u0131plar\u0131n birle\u015fimleri ile a\u00e7\u0131kl\u0131yorum\/a\u00e7\u0131kl\u0131yoruz. Bu y\u00fczden \u201chalk m\u00fczi\u011fi\u201d alan\u0131nda olu\u015fan her ezgi de \u201cmakam da\u011far\u0131n\u0131n\u201d bir par\u00e7as\u0131d\u0131r. Ancak, illa ki bir ezgiye bir makam ad\u0131n\u0131n verilmesinin zorunluluk da oldu\u011funu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnm\u00fcyorum, baz\u0131 yerel ezgi kal\u0131plar\u0131 \u201cnazariyat kaynaklar\u0131n\u0131n\u201d d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda kalm\u0131\u015f \u201cyerel isimlendirilmeyle\u201d an\u0131labilece\u011fi gibi benzer kal\u0131plar \u201ci\u015flevsel baz\u0131 yeni tan\u0131mlamalarla da\u201d an\u0131labilir. \u00d6nemli olan ezgileri yap\u0131sal \u00f6zellikleri noktas\u0131nda do\u011fru bir bi\u00e7ime tan\u0131mlayabilme ve s\u0131n\u0131fland\u0131rabilmedir. Yerel makamlarla ilgili son d\u00f6nemlerde Ali\u015fan Budak ile Diyarbak\u0131r, Nuri Y\u0131lmaz ile Elaz\u0131\u011f ve Aziz Erdo\u011fan ile Tunceli M\u00fczik K\u00fclt\u00fcrleri \u00fczerine yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131n b\u00f6ylesi noktalar\u0131n tart\u0131\u015f\u0131lmas\u0131nda \u00f6nemli oldu\u011funu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"text-big\"><strong>AY: \u00a0\u201cTHM, TSM, Tasavvuf\u00a0 M\u00fczi\u011fi, Mehter M\u00fczi\u011fi, THO v.b.\u201d Zaten Gelene\u011fi Olan, Gelene\u011fi \u0130\u00e7inde Bar\u0131nd\u0131ran M\u00fcziklerdir, O Nedenle, \u201cGeleneksel\u201d Kelimesinin Hepsinin Ba\u015f\u0131na\u00a0 Eklenmesini Do\u011fru Bulmuyorum. Siz, S\u00fcrekli Kullan\u0131yorsunuz\u2026Nerede Anla\u015fal\u0131m?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"text-big\"><strong>G\u00dcRAY:\u00a0<\/strong>Hakl\u0131s\u0131n\u0131z, bunun yan\u0131nda zaten her m\u00fczik kendine has bir gelenekten olu\u015fur, olu\u015fmal\u0131d\u0131r. Kan\u0131mca, \u201cgeleneksel\u201d diyerek \u00f6zel bir alan\u0131 betimlemedi\u011fimiz ba\u011flamlar d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda (\u00f6rne\u011fin Anadolu Geleneksel M\u00fczikleri dedi\u011fimiz anda \u201cBin Y\u0131l\u0131n Miras\u0131\u201d olarak tan\u0131mlad\u0131\u011f\u0131m \u201ckadim\u201d teori gelene\u011fi \u00fczerinde in\u015fa edilmi\u015f m\u00fczikleri kastetti\u011fim gibi\u2026) \u201cgeleneksel\u201d kelimesini bahsetti\u011finiz kavramlar\u0131n \u00f6n\u00fcne eklemeyebiliriz.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"text-big\"><strong>AY: Y\u00d6K ile MEB M\u00fczik Programlar\u0131n\u0131 \u0130nceledi\u011fimizde, \u00d6zellikle Terminoloji de Anla\u015famad\u0131klar\u0131,\u00a0 M\u00fczik Komisyonlar\u0131na Bakt\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131zda da S\u00fcrekli Ayn\u0131 Ki\u015filerin G\u00f6rev Ald\u0131\u011f\u0131 G\u00f6r\u00fcl\u00fcyor. Ne dersiniz?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"text-big\"><strong>G\u00dcRAY:\u00a0<\/strong>Bu alanlarda \u201cterminoloji\u201d konusunda uzla\u015fma olmas\u0131 gerekir, umar\u0131m en k\u0131sa s\u00fcrede sa\u011flanabilir.<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>\u0130lgili komisyonlarda g\u00f6rev yapan hocalar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n meseleleri t\u00fcm m\u00fczik kurumlar\u0131n\u0131 kapsayan b\u00fct\u00fcnc\u00fcl bir bak\u0131\u015f a\u00e7\u0131s\u0131yla inceleyerek, \u00a0verimli \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm yollar\u0131na mutlaka ula\u015fabileceklerine inan\u0131yorum.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"text-big\"><strong>AY: \u00d6nemli Bilgiler \u0130\u00e7in Te\u015fekk\u00fcr Ederiz.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span class=\"text-big\"><strong>G\u00dcRAY:\u00a0<\/strong>Ben te\u015fekk\u00fcr ederim, bana bu k\u0131ymetli imk\u00e2n\u0131 sa\u011flad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z i\u00e7in, sayg\u0131lar\u0131mla,<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"grid-stack-item\" data-modulsure=\"6\" data-gs-x=\"0\" data-gs-y=\"362\" data-gs-width=\"36\" data-gs-height=\"5\" data-gs-autoh=\"-1\" data-zeminrenk=\"23\" data-spotrenk=\"-1\" data-baslikrenk=\"0\" data-seritrenk=\"-1\" data-hoverrenk=\"-1\" data-font1=\"0\" data-baslikkalinlik=\"0\" data-spotkalinlik=\"0\" data-baslikbold=\"0\" data-spotbold=\"0\" data-cogaltx=\"0\" data-cogalty=\"0\" data-border=\"0\" data-borderrenk=\"-1\" data-baslikls=\"0\" data-basliklh=\"0\" data-spotls=\"0\" data-spotlh=\"0\" data-sticky=\"0\">\n<div class=\"grid-stack-item-content numodul Haber_Anahtar_Kelimeler_1\">\n<div class=\"keyw hf moduleBackground flx fcc\"><span class=\"title1Color title1Size\"><b>Anahtar Kelimeler:<\/b>\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.enpolitik.com\/arsiv.aspx?s=1&amp;kelime=..\">..<\/a>\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.enpolitik.com\/arsiv.aspx?s=1&amp;kelime=G%C3%9CRAY;\">G\u00dcRAY;<\/a>\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.enpolitik.com\/arsiv.aspx?s=1&amp;kelime=%E2%80%9C\">\u201c<\/a>\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.enpolitik.com\/arsiv.aspx?s=1&amp;kelime=m%C3%BCzi%C4%9Fi%E2%80%9D\">m\u00fczi\u011fi\u201d<\/a>\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.enpolitik.com\/arsiv.aspx?s=1&amp;kelime=%C3%BCr%C3%BCnlerinin\">\u00fcr\u00fcnlerinin<\/a>\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.enpolitik.com\/arsiv.aspx?s=1&amp;kelime=%E2%80%9Cmakamsal\">\u201cmakamsal<\/a>\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.enpolitik.com\/arsiv.aspx?s=1&amp;kelime=m%C3%BCzik\">m\u00fczik<\/a>\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.enpolitik.com\/arsiv.aspx?s=1&amp;kelime=%C3%B6zellikleri%E2%80%9D\">\u00f6zellikleri\u201d<\/a>\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.enpolitik.com\/arsiv.aspx?s=1&amp;kelime=ta%C5%9F%C4%B1d%C4%B1%C4%9F%C4%B1n%C4%B1\">ta\u015f\u0131d\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131<\/a>\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.enpolitik.com\/arsiv.aspx?s=1&amp;kelime=d%C3%BC%C5%9F%C3%BCn%C3%BCyorum%E2%80%A6()\">d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum\u2026<\/a><\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>PROF.DR. CENK G\u00dcRAY; \u201cHALK M\u00dcZ\u0130\u011e\u0130\u201d \u00dcR\u00dcNLER\u0130N\u0130N \u201cMAKAMSAL M\u00dcZ\u0130K \u00d6ZELL\u0130KLER\u0130\u201d TA\u015eIDI\u011eINI D\u00dc\u015e\u00dcN\u00dcYORUM\u2026(3) Tarih: 7.07.2023 Sitemiz k\u00f6\u015fe yazar\u0131 Dr. G\u00f6ktan AY\u2019\u0131n, Prof. Dr. Cenk G\u00fcray (Hacettepe \u00dcniversitesi, Ankara Devlet Konservatuvar\u0131) ile yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 \u201cSanat-M\u00fczik ve Kurumlar\u0131m\u0131z \u201ckonulu s\u00f6yle\u015fiye devam ediyoruz. 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